At the moment, we’re taking you to our imaginary retirement dwelling. It’s not a daily retirement dwelling, it’s a cool retirement dwelling the place we make artwork, pies, and pottery. We additionally write novels and go swimming.
We’re additionally answering two of the deepest listener questions we’ve seen shortly, so put together yourselves for that.

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Present Notes:
Potential areas for our imaginary retirement dwelling:
-lnside an old style or lodge
-Haunted mansion
-Mini particular person cottages with a terrific place to stroll close by
-Someplace that has all 4 seasons however a second location in Palm Springs
-A terrific place to stroll close by
What we might do all day:
-Poetry, portray, and different craft tasks
-Take naps
-Elaborate pasta making
-Tarot readings as soon as per week
-Subject journeys to House Items, Starbucks, the library, and the park
-A baking day
-Glad hour within the scorching tub
-Evening swimming
–Film nights with a popcorn machine
-Host themed dinner events with costumes and themed menus
Seasonal Decor Traditions:
-Create holiday-themed rooms all 12 months spherical
Spring:
-Give a room a recent coat of paint
–Plant a backyard
–Spring cleansing
-Neighborhood storage sale
Summer season:
–Pool events
–Pasta salad
–Slushie machine
-Put Halloween decor up in August
Fall:
-Harry Potter dinner with floating candles, floating pumpkins, and a Harry Potter marathon
Winter:
-Go to household and concentrate on hobbies
Listener Query: What have been your favourite buys of the 12 months?
Emma: Espresso subscription from The Espresso Ethic and her Massive Blanket
Elsie: Little Free Library for the entrance of her home and her kiln
Listener Query: How have you ever modified post-pandemic?
Emma: Extra open to (and grateful) for any social interplay
Elsie: Extra of a loner, very comfy with privateness, and in a position to get pleasure from easy issues together with her youngsters
Listener Query: The place you see yourselves in 10 years?
Emma: Have a schedule that mirrors Oscar’s faculty schedule, be a fiction author, and have more room in her schedule
Elsie: Semi-retired, writing some fiction books, and touring together with her youngsters
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Episode 155 Transcript:
Elsie: At the moment we’re taking a journey to our previous woman inventive dwelling. Think about with us, you’re on the finish of your life, your accomplice has gone on, and your youngsters are busy elevating households of their very own. So you progress in with us to our inventive dwelling. It’s a spot the place we make artwork. We make pies, and pottery, we write novels, we go swimming, and on and on. So right now, we’re taking you to our imaginary retirement dwelling. It’s not a daily retirement dwelling. It’s a cool retirement dwelling. We even have two tremendous deep listener questions. I believe they’re the deepest listener questions I’ve heard shortly. So let’s get into it.
Emma: Wow! So this episode is about getting previous, demise, after which deep listener questions.
Elsie: Okay, so truly, we get a ton of requests to speak extra about getting previous, as a result of individuals find it irresistible after we speak about it as a result of I do suppose that it’s certainly one of my strengths, is having a very optimistic angle, and making an attempt to make it into one thing freaking stunning and by the point this episode is over, I believe everybody will see that on show.
Emma: Oh, yeah. Getting older rocks. To date. All thumbs up.
Elsie: One other listener query we received this week was, do you’re feeling like individuals deal with you such as you’re irrelevant over 35? And I used to be like, Oh my God, that’s so unhappy, however it’s true and I believe it’s unhappy and it’s actual and it’s additionally, one thing for us to divide and conquer. That’s how I really feel.
Emma: Sure, I agree as a result of I believe even when it’s true, it’s like, what’s your reply then to that?
Elsie: Proper.
Emma: Of like, “Okay, then I’ll simply stay as if I’m irrelevant.” It’s like, you’re most likely gonna attempt to be related and cling to youth and I don’t know if that’s essentially one of the best answer. I believe it is perhaps higher to only embrace, you already know, I’m simply making an attempt to say, I don’t know if a midlife disaster is a optimistic factor. So possibly, simply settle for that getting older is a part of life and it’s stunning.
Elsie: So okay, Emma is shifting into my pink home. Like, what, this weekend?
Emma: Sure, this weekend, later right now.
Elsie: She’s shifting in as not a everlasting factor however as a short lived factor to transition between, she has to maneuver out of her home that she’s residing in as a result of she bought it and their contractors should not fairly completed together with her new inexperienced kitchen home that we’ve instructed you about.
Emma: No. Yeah. I imply, like most issues, we’re getting in direction of the tip of our renovation, however you already know, yeah, in direction of the tip. And it’s not fairly…
Elsie: Higher be in direction of the tip!
Emma: It’s totally on time, I do need to say that, it’s positively totally on time. I believe we’re simply going to have about two weeks the place it’s not tremendous livable, particularly contemplating we’ve a one-year-old, a 15-month-old child who’s very cellular, however nonetheless placing every part in his mouth and all that. So it’s simply not a terrific play, we might stay there however I believe it is going to be higher if we go crash at Elsie’s pink home for a few weeks. I simply suppose it is going to be a greater state of affairs and safer for everybody. So I’m grateful that we’ve that possibility and we’re going to do this. However after all, it simply feels sort of like being displaced for slightly bit. As a result of it’s like, we’re principally going to stay out of suitcases at Elsie’s home for 2 weeks, which is so significantly better than many alternate options. So I’m not complaining however I’m simply saying, “Oh, I received’t have a altering desk for 2 weeks, I’ll be altering him on the mattress”, which is okay however mother and father of younger youngsters know it may be sort of a factor the place you’re like, making an attempt to carry them down in order that they don’t roll up and doing however you seize the wipes and you already know simply various things like that, the place it’s like slightly bit, you already know, outdoors of your, your routines the place you may have every part arrange. Now, that’s simply what films like typically. In order that’s yeah, that’s the place our life is however I believe it’ll be enjoyable. I additionally really feel like we sort of get these additional two weeks to say goodbye to our present neighborhood, which is our favourite. Yeah, we love our neighborhood. We’re going to overlook it a lot. I’m actually excited for our new home and our new neighborhood is nice. And it’s going to be nice so I’m not saying I’m unhappy to depart and that is torture. I’m simply saying, we’ve liked our neighborhood so I really feel like we get these additional two weeks to sort of say goodbye as a result of I am going on walks with Oscar each morning. Trey and I’ll take him on a stroll within the night typically and go get a espresso or no matter on the little espresso store. Fairly quickly that received’t be fairly as simple as a result of we received’t stay on this neighborhood. So I do really feel like we get this little bonus time and I believe that’s actually candy. It’s additionally simply beginning to be cool and crisp as a result of it’s sort of fall time. So it’s the right time to sort of have all these walks and say goodbye. Clearly, we’ll nonetheless be round although. We’re actually shifting 10 minutes away. It’s not an enormous deal.
Elsie: However truly lots of people have requested me if I’m mad at you for shifting out of the pink home neighborhood as a result of that was a promoting characteristic for me. And the reply is sure, I’m mad.
Emma: Okay nicely, good to know.
Elsie: Simply kidding.
Emma: Nova was mad. Nova was like what?! I used to be like, uh-oh, Don’t fear, it’s not very far. It’s not very far. It’s simply not inside strolling distance.
Elsie: Emma is like their final hero so after all. Okay, so we’re doing an episode about our previous woman inventive retreat. I can’t keep in mind what episode it was, it was someday final 12 months that we first talked about this. So let’s simply sort of give a flashback about what it’s we have been speaking about, in case listeners didn’t catch that episode.
Emma: Yeah. So primarily, I really feel like I talked about this within the episode: I used to be on the grocery retailer shopping for meals. I used to be on the meat counter and slightly previous woman was additionally on the meat counter in entrance of me and he or she rotated to talk with me whereas she’s ready for her order. She has mentioned one thing to the impact of, “it’s so unhappy to eat alone on a regular basis now as a result of my husband’s handed away. And I’ve been alone now for six months.” And he or she mentioned she usually doesn’t even eat on the eating room she eats at her kitchen counter. And, you already know, I used to be speaking together with her slightly bit. I believe additionally like, we’d all simply gone by a time of a variety of isolation so I’m positive that performed into this. I chatted together with her, and we each received our orders, all of that. It simply received me pondering, I used to be like, you already know, there may be sort of this period in life. I believe we noticed it with our grandmas too. Certainly one of our grandmas remains to be on this period, the place a variety of occasions if in case you have a accomplice, your accomplice passes on, and your youngsters are busy, they’ve lives, they’re elevating their very own youngsters or their youngsters are grown. It’s simply sort of this season, that it, I’m like, Yeah, I might see that being sort of lonely. And like it will be simple to develop into remoted as a result of the individual that you most likely relied on, your roommate, your accomplice, your husband, or spouse, or no matter, you already know, once they go on, it’s like your built-in social individual is now gone. So I used to be like, you already know, we should always purchase an previous elementary constructing or one thing like that. I see colleges which were closed on a regular basis, I don’t know why however I drive by and I’ll see an old style constructing is closed and nothing’s taking place with it.
Elsie: Yeah…
Emma: Or like malls, so many malls throughout America have closed, and so they’re not going to reopen. So there’s these large empty buildings and I used to be like, “we should always purchase certainly one of these buildings.” And we’ll simply flip it into principally an previous woman retirement dwelling. And whenever you don’t have a accomplice anymore, you’ve possibly by no means had a accomplice, no matter, you’re within the season of loneliness, for no matter motive, you are available in there and that’s the place you reside with us. And it’s simply principally like artwork camp, however for previous women, and we simply get pleasure from our final season of life collectively.
Elsie: Sure. So principally, that’s what we mentioned in certainly one of our earlier episodes and we’ve gotten most likely 100 requests to speak extra about it
Emma: There’s a waitlist…
Elsie: To speak extra about it in elaborate element. So the fantasy positively resonated with a few of you and it resonated with me too. It’s one thing that I get pleasure from fascinated with. I actually loved prepping for this episode and kind of brainstorming all the enjoyable issues we might do. So yeah, I believe that it’s a variety of enjoyable and I need to say up high, sure, it’s foolish, and sure, we’re like, it’s not completely critical however I additionally suppose it’s critical and it’s important as a result of I believe at all times trying ahead to your subsequent season of life or the longer term with the hope of profiting from it and making it extraordinarily particular and distinctive, and doing one thing bizarre. I believe that that’s so helpful. And I do fear that in our tradition, lots of people really feel like their finest years are behind them after a sure age. And that’s actually unhappy. So that is kind of matter that I really feel obsessed with as a result of I really feel like we should always at all times have one thing to sit up for our complete life by.
Emma: Yeah, I imply, it’s a fantasy, however it’s additionally like I’d do that if circumstances all got here collectively. I imply, the reality is, I don’t know if I’m going to go on earlier than my accomplice or I don’t even know something about that season of life actually. I simply take a look at it like most individuals do our age and suppose, oh my gosh, that is perhaps actually onerous and actually unhappy and possibly sort of isolating. So this little fantasy that Elsie and I’ve is our means of reframing that and altering our future. Seeing what we’ll nonetheless have in our management to make the longer term vivid and to make it a contented time, although it’ll even have onerous issues like all of life does. You already know, each season has good and dangerous issues and we’re simply aiming to fantasize about some good issues right here. So
Elsie: Hell yeah! Okay, so the very first thing to speak about is feasible areas. Emma mentioned up entrance an old style, which I personally suppose an old style is a powerful selection but additionally possibly not your best option as a result of structure smart, you already know, an old style, it’s going to have shared bogs which I don’t approve of. And it’s additionally going to have large… Is your bed room going to be like an enormous classroom? I don’t know if I essentially need that. So right here’s a few of my concepts. The primary concept is a haunted mansion. So hear me out, I’ve simply at all times wished to stay in a haunted mansion. And I believe that in our Grandma Colt, possibly extra individuals really feel the identical means as us, like, you already know, we are able to stay in a semi-restored, cozy little ghosty mansion.
Emma: Attention-grabbing.
Elsie: My subsequent concept is an previous lodge. An previous lodge, I believe would have nice sized rooms the place it’s like, you simply get your room and your individual little small lavatory after which there’s all these widespread areas. I believe that is perhaps an excellent area. My final concept is, I’ve seen these in Branson, little mini particular person cottages, like, you already know, slightly particular person, like a small little cabin for every individual. Or possibly you may have a roommate, it does make me really feel like, irrespective of how lonely I get in my life, I’ll by no means need to stay in a room the place I’ve to sleep with an entire bunch of individuals. Like, you already know what I imply?
Emma: Yeah, identical.
Elsie: I’ll nonetheless at all times need slightly little bit of privateness and introvert battery charging station. So yeah, these are my concepts.
Emma: Yeah, possibly it could possibly be a bunch of tiny A-frames like close to a lake or close to one thing like that. Additionally, location smart…
Elsie: Do you do not forget that colt TV present a couple of years again the place they have been all wearing purple, they’d the a-frames (laughing).
Emma: They did…
Elsie: So I used to be pondering of that.
Emma: Yeah, truthfully, deserted colt space can be an concept. So put that on the record.
Elsie: If it’s good. If it’s fancy. I imply, my best choice is a lodge.
Emma: Yeah, I believe the lodge can be my high out of every part you simply listed. I’m fairly fascinated by that one. I believe it makes essentially the most sense as a result of it has area for alone time to recharge the previous introvert batteries. After which it additionally has plenty of widespread areas, or there could possibly be rooms the place individuals room collectively, and that’s a risk too. In order that’s good. Yeah, I like all that. I believe too, I would love it to be someplace that also has all 4 seasons.
Elsie: Yup…
Emma: Simply because I like fall a lot. So I don’t actually need… I do know everybody strikes to Florida once they grow old and that’s actually cool, and possibly I’ll need to try this after I’m older. I don’t know. I don’t know the longer term however in the meanwhile, I’m sort of like, Nah, I believe I actually just like the 4 seasons. I’d actually prefer it to be someplace the place the leaves change colours. You already know, that’s like, only a comfortable time of life for me so I believe I would like it to be someplace like that however I’m not essentially tied to Missouri or Tennessee, however yeah, possibly, I don’t know…
Elsie: Yeah, I would like the leaves altering colours for positive.
Emma: Yeah. So I believe that’s essential.
Elsie: Possibly we mix then as a result of I really feel like the sphere journeys in New England are very sturdy.
Emma: I used to be gonna say yeah, possibly the Northeast can be a great spot too. So yeah, there’s a variety of good areas actually however I additionally prefer it whether it is chilly and/or snows for the vacations. I do know it’s annoying to drive in and issues like that however I identical to that so possibly we might have two although so then we might go some place else January by March as a result of that’s the dangerous time of 12 months.
Elsie: It’s a fantasy so we are able to positively have two.
Emma: Yeah, let’s simply have two, there’s just like the winter and spring after which there’s the summer time/fall one.
Elsie: Okay, nicely, I positively need to go to Palm Springs for the winter, the after Christmas, gloomy time.
Emma: Okay, yeah, Q1, we go to the desert someplace, most likely Palm Springs. That sounds good. Okay, so let’s speak about what would we do all day. What’s the syllabus of this previous woman summer time camp that by no means ends? What are we as much as?
Elsie: Initially, we want a bus with the bus driver.
Emma: Sure we do.
Elsie: As a result of we’re gonna go on plenty of area journeys, and I already don’t need to drive now. I do know I’m not gonna need to drive at the moment in my life.
Emma: Truthfully, yeah, that may be a large consistency amongst all my feminine pals. I don’t know why however none of us like driving. I don’t know what that’s, I do not know.
Elsie: Cuz driving sucks. Sure. Okay. I made a really large syllabus. Okay, so we’ll change off between pottery and portray as a result of I need to paint and I need to do pottery however I really feel prefer it’s sort of an both or for the day so we are able to travel.
Emma: Yeah, I agree.
Elsie: Okay, so elaborate pasta making is like my final ardour that I’ve not been in a position to fulfill in my toddler elevating life-style. So I want an area for that. You already know a ravioli, the place every ravioli has slightly scene on it. A bit illustration, slightly image, little design.
Emma: Yeah, morning time we’ll be doing arts and crafts, then it’s lunch and naptime. As quickly as we get up from nap time to do elaborate meals stuff in order that we are able to eat dinner at like six, you already know?
Elsie: Yep. I can’t accept lower than a two-story library with a no speaking rule so we at all times have an area the place we are able to learn, and no one is making an attempt to have a dialog on this one area, as a result of I believe that’s well mannered, sort of a library vibe. You already know, possibly if it’s an elementary faculty, we might do the library, that truly is smart for that one.
Emma: That’s why I just like the elementary faculty as a result of one I see them deserted lots, however two it’s like they’ve totally different areas as a result of they have already got an artwork room. They may have already got a kiln. You already know what I imply? So it’s like, that sort of factor. However anyway, there’s drawbacks just like the communal bogs, so…
Elsie: Completely not.
Emma: We’d need to renovate slightly bit.
Elsie: Yeah. And okay, for my spooky babes. I believe the tarot readings are a vital half, possibly as soon as per week. Doesn’t must be every single day. I believe as soon as per week is an effective quantity to do the readings. Then for area journeys, I’m pondering we’ll simply go to love House Items. We’ll go to Starbucks. Simply common locations (laughing).
Emma: Yeah. There’s nowhere else I wanna go. Library… House Items…
Elsie: Yeah, I imply, we are able to go to the park. You already know, we might go simply common on a regular basis locations, the grocery retailer…
Emma: Oh, that’s one other factor concerning the location. It must be an space the place we are able to go on actually nice walks, and like, we don’t need to take the bus. We simply go outdoors and there’s nice strolling.
Elsie: Oh, she needs a stroll rating. Okay..
Emma: Sure. We don’t need to stroll… it doesn’t need to be the place we’ve to get someplace. It could possibly be like a foresty space. It doesn’t need to be like, oh, there needs to be a espresso store close by. I don’t need to stroll anyplace. I’m good with an aimless, however I want to have the ability to stroll, so it will probably’t be off the aspect of a freeway and we are able to’t stroll. Not fascinated by that. Not strolling on the aspect of a freeway. No.
Elsie: Okay, I agree. Okay, cookie baking marathon. I believe we should always simply have baking day as soon as per week. That is smart to me. Yeah, we’ll have our personal sourdough starter and we’ll have our personal baking cupboard and it’ll be magnificent. Each sort of sprinkles. Okay, I’m pondering that we’ve a contented hour every single day within the scorching tub as a result of why not in our, you already know, golden woman years. Why wouldn’t we’ve a contented hour and a scorching tub?
Emma: I agree. Hopefully, by then marijuana will likely be federally authorized. I hope so. By then
Elsie: Will probably be.
Emma: If not by then have been by no means gonna make it right here within the US. We’ll simply be sure that it’s in a state the place it’s if that’s a problem.
Elsie: Will probably be tremendous. After which okay, do you suppose we should always do an excellent quantity of night time swimming?
Emma: Like it!
Elsie: As a result of our cool retirement dwelling. And I additionally suppose we should always have a variety of film nights as a result of films are one of the best.
Emma: Sure! I desire a large popcorn maker like you may have at your own home the place all of us make it collectively and scoop it out and stuff for the film.
Elsie: Plus the do-it-yourself popcorn once-a-week life-style may be very underrated and it has introduced us a lot pleasure. If in case you have an opportunity to get slightly popcorn maker and do it on Sunday nights and have a household film night time, it’s so fantastic.
Emma: Yeah, I believe we’re gonna get one at our new home.
Elsie: You must do it!
Emma: I haven’t picked one out but as a result of we’re not at that stage.
Elsie: I’ve a weblog put up for that… I’ve a weblog put up nearly popcorning.
Emma: Oh I’ll use your affiliate hyperlink. Don’t you are worried.
Elsie: Good. Okay, that’s the syllabus and clearly, ship us your solutions. We need to hear each. single. one.
Emma: We gotta beautify lots for the vacations too. We are able to begin adorning for Halloween in like August. You already know?
Elsie: I like that. Yeah, I imply, any month. So the subsequent factor I’ve down is the dinner events. So I believe themed dinner events with their very own menus. When you may have time all day, that is what I’ve at all times wished to do my complete life. However you already know, it’s onerous to seek out sufficient time. So I really feel like that’s the season in life to make the flamboyant dinner events with costumes and themes and a homicide thriller feast, all of that stuff. It makes me so comfortable.
Emma: Possibly on occasion, we are able to let outsiders into the dinner events as a result of are you able to think about for those who heard that there was this previous woman group that was having a homicide thriller feast to themselves. They usually have been like, Okay, you’ll be able to come along with your good friend or your accomplice or no matter. I’d be like, “Oh my gosh, I’m there. I can not wait to see what these women are as much as.”
Elsie: Yep, yep.
Emma: So we are able to let individuals in occasionally. Not as a enterprise concept. Simply as enjoyable.
Elsie: Yeah, I imply, it’s all only for enjoyable. I hope that that’s apparent. This isn’t a enterprise concept. It is a very costly retirement fantasy.
Emma: Fantasy. Yeah, we haven’t found out any essential logistics. You’re like, “how are you going to cope with medical care?” I’m like, “that’s not a part of the fantasy guys. Let’s focus.”
Elsie: Yeah…
Emma: like I don’t know, everybody wears a Life Alert. I don’t know. (laughing)
Elsie: We are able to all put on a Life Alert. That’s tremendous.
Emma: Yeah, heads up on the steps. Everybody hold an eye fixed out for everybody else.
Elsie: Yeah, I took rollerskating off the syllabus cuz I figured that was too, you’re too fragile, that you just don’t wanna bust your a$$ for no motive
Emma: Nicely, you wanna watch out. Take your calcium everybody. (laughing)
Elsie: Okay, the subsequent factor is seasonal decor and traditions. So I believe the extra seasonal decor the higher. And I do suppose there must be kind of a manifesto/contract that it’s a must to signal upon acceptance to our particular grandma Hogwarts, the place for those who’re not okay with placing the Halloween decorations up in July or August, then you definitely don’t come to our retirement dwelling.
Emma: Yeah you’re out.
Elsie: as a result of it’s a joyful, like, the entire level is that its most pleasure. So there aren’t any downers. Yeah,
Emma: Yeah, no stinkers are allowed. Yeah, so you already know, if we’ve room, if it was at an elementary or, I don’t know, if we had room, possibly we might designate a room that’s like, that is the Halloween room all 12 months spherical and that is the Christmas room all 12 months spherical. So after all, we nonetheless beautify in all places for Christmas however then it’s like there’s an area whenever you’re slightly bit depressed in February, you’ll be able to go into the Halloween room, and it’s only a good little escape. You already know?
Elsie: I find it irresistible. Okay, I wrote down some issues for every season. So within the springtime, I believe that may be our DIY time of 12 months the place if one thing wants a recent coat of paint, or you already know, no matter, you need to plant some flowers, spring cleansing, all of that. And likewise, I believe we should always have an enormous group storage sale.
Emma: Enjoyable!
Elsie: Cuz that is smart to declutter. And likewise, I at this season of my life…
Emma: Possibly we might promote our pottery then too? Simply so we principally could make area for all of our pottery.
Elsie: Yeah, that sounds good. Yeah, I by no means have time to do storage gross sales now, and I want I did, however I simply don’t. So it’s a kind of issues that I believe possibly sometime.
Emma: Yeah, we might make do-it-yourself doughnuts, as a result of we’ll most likely be up at 4am anyway as a result of we’re previous women and I assume that’s the way it works. I don’t know. So we’ll makes do-it-yourself doughnuts only for ourselves. Or the storage sale.
Elsie: Yeah, that sounds good. Okay, the summer time factor is pool events. Numerous pool events and many pasta salad. So it’s like, every single day you go within the pool and also you make your pasta salad. And I simply suppose that’s summer time at its finest.
Emma: Let’s get a slushie machine so we are able to at all times have some sort of alcoholic slushy. It’s by the pool.
Elsie: OK, the reply is sure. Slushie machine added to the record formally.
Emma: Glorious. Okay, the funds we’re increasing.
Elsie: Yeah, the funds is fluid truly, you don’t even have to broaden it.
Emma: It’s a fantasy.
Elsie: Okay, for fall I’ve one very particular fantasy. I need to have a Harry Potter dinner with the floating candles and the floating pumpkins. Yeah. In order that is essential to me. I can’t do something if I can’t have the floating pumpkins.
Emma: The reply is Sure. I don’t see why we wouldn’t try this. I don’t know why we wouldn’t. That sounds silly to not try this.
Elsie: Yeah after which we are able to have a Harry Potter marathon. That’s a fall exercise. Then winter, I really feel like possibly we’ll have slightly little bit of a break for the vacations as a result of we’ll need to go go to our households. After which afterward, I believed possibly we might be feeling sort of down as a result of you already know, it’s a must to come off of that prime of…
Emma: The vacation excessive…
Elsie: Of visitng grandkids and all of that stuff. So I believed we might make the winter identical to cozy hobbies, like extremely passion time, the place it’s just like the variety of hobbies we usually do. We simply double it for that miserable time of 12 months.
Emma: Yeah, I believe the identical, we’ll be hobbies and hibernation.
Elsie: Oh, yeah. That’s good. I like that.
Emma: So it’s like, make one thing, take a nap, learn a e book. That’s it. Drink some scorching chocolate, speak to somebody so that you don’t really feel so lonely. There you go. That’s it. That’s all. Everybody’s good.
Elsie: Magical. Okay, the rest? As a result of the main points I really feel like are crucial a part of this complete fantasy. The main points actually matter.
Emma: What else? What else? What else? I imply, I believe the kitchen goes to must be actually essential as a result of we’re going to have a lot elaborate baking and pasta making and I simply am envisioning a variety of like, a business chrome steel space, that additionally has an enormous row of aprons that everybody you already know, has their very own. We most likely are going to wish a walk-in freezer, or fridge, not freezer, possibly freezer too, I don’t know, most likely gonna want a kind of. In order that’s going to be essential as a result of you already know, it’s annoying everytime you make cookies and you might want to refrigerate them. You don’t have any more room. We want plenty of racks. The place you simply wheel it into the strolling, you already know, and we’ve received all of our lots of of cookies which can be simply in there, no drawback. Chillin for a minute. That sort of factor.
Elsie: Okay.
Emma: I do suppose film night time we positively want a film display screen. That complete expertise.
Elsie: Oh, yeah,
Emma: I believe in the summertime, we should always get a kind of large inflatable film display screen issues. So we are able to do Pool Social gathering film nights. You already know, as a result of that’d be enjoyable. In order that could possibly be like, summer time film night time modifications. So it’s such as you sit on the market, have the popcorn.
Elsie: Like it!
Emma: Can we add, so we’ve pottery and we’ve portray. I believe possibly, what if we added candlemaking as a result of we’re making all this pottery anyway. Plus, as foolish as this visible is, I sort of preferred when in, The Workplace, when Jan goes into her candle room and he or she’s like, “after I’m upset I simply are available in right here and odor the candles.” And I’m like, Yeah, you’re loopy Jan however, yeah, I get that. Possibly we want a candle room.
Elsie: That’s how I’m with my Halloween closet. I believe that making candles, yeah I imply, like, I didn’t need to make it sound like portray and pottery are the one crafts we’re gonna do. We’re gonna do each craft. I imply, there’s so many issues that I nonetheless haven’t had the time to study that we might nonetheless study. So yeah, studying new issues I believe is the important thing to longevity on your mind. And that’s one thing that I need to do completely. Always, take a category, study one thing new. So yeah, I believe there’s infinite craft concepts we are able to do.
Emma: Possibly we might add to the bus outings. You already know our little outings the place we go to House Items and Starbucks and stuff. Possibly we are able to additionally get manicures and pedicures? Like our bus pulls up and all the women get off on the salon to get… I nonetheless need to get some wacky nail artwork, even after I’m previous as a result of it’s cool, man.
Elsie: Yeah, it’s cool. Okay, I like all of it. I believe it’s going to have a really lengthy ready record. And I believe it’s gonna be very talked-about retirement dwelling.
Emma: Look, you may as well make your individual everybody. Do you know that you would be able to have your individual fantasies? You’ll be able to copy our fantasy and it will probably nonetheless be yours. You already know, so they need to open this with your pals, like 100%.
Elsie: Please copy it. Yeah..
Emma: Please
Elsie: Yeah, I believe the thought of constructing our golden years be all about hobbies. And you already know, exploring extra curiosity, I believe is so thrilling. Simply due to the place I’m proper now. My capability to strive one thing new is so small, and I’m tremendous with it however, it’s very small. To have a a lot larger capability, I believe it’s simply so thrilling. So…
Emma: Very thrilling.
Elsie: So I’ve three listener questions and I promised that they’d be very deep however how about we begin off with the shallow one first?
Emma: Yeah.
Elsie: So these questions all got here from Instagram. You’ll be able to observe us at A Lovely Mess. I ask for podcast concepts on there fairly usually, each time I’m writing the outlines. These questions all got here from final night time after I did that. The primary one is the shallow one, quote-unquote, what have been your favourite buys of the 12 months? Which I at all times love this query, as a result of it actually makes me suppose and it’s not one thing that I immediately know, and I don’t know for those who knew yours immediately, however I used to be pondering how about we every get to?
Emma: Yeah, I wrote down two. I attempted to select issues that I haven’t already talked about on the podcast, simply because there are some favourite buys that you just’ve already heard me speak about a bunch of occasions. So I believed I’ll do one thing slightly totally different. So mine are fairly random and likewise my standards was extra like issues that I exploit lots. Each of those I exploit each single day. I’m not saying they’re the easiest factor ever. I imply, I believe they’re each fantastic, however I used to be extra like this stuff have been actually well worth the cash. So the primary one was a espresso subscription and I’ve truly had this for a couple of years, and I’ve it to an area espresso store. They make their very own roast, their very own beans right here on the town known as, The Espresso Ethic. I extremely suggest a espresso subscription. For those who don’t have a terrific native place that does subscriptions, then there’s plenty of nationwide ones. However I completely suggest discovering one thing native, ours is superior. It simply will get delivered to my home. That’s been an enormous lifesaver this 12 months as I’ve a younger little one. I was far more on high of shopping for espresso and now I ONLY go to the grocery retailer. I don’t go to 2 or three locations and there’s espresso beans on the grocery retailer, and so they’re tremendous, however I actually like a particular espresso within the morning. I like espresso. I’m sort of obsessed with it. I don’t know if I’d say I’m a espresso snob however, I don’t know if I do know sufficient about it to essentially match into that class truthfully, however I do like good espresso. So, you already know, the espresso subscription is sort of a factor for me that I’ve actually loved. I make espresso each single morning and it’s with Espresso Ethic espresso beans 90% of the time. After which my second one was, I purchased a Massive Blanket, which it’s actually, that’s the title of their firm. They usually truly, since then have sponsored the podcast. So I’m simply letting you already know that they’re at the moment a sponsor, which is so cool of them to help us. I received this blanket lengthy earlier than they have been ever a sponsor and it’s on our mattress. They make these large blankets, they’ve a couple of totally different material decisions and many totally different patterns. Now we have it on our mattress at the moment and it suits our king measurement mattress nice. We sort of have the problem the place we’re stealing the covers from one another. So this solves that every one the best way. You additionally might use this for picnics, or if in case you have a much bigger household, everybody can match underneath it on the sofa for those who’re watching a film. They’re simply actually candy and comfortable. I additionally wished to deliver it up for this time of 12 months as a result of I believe it’s a very nice factor for this time of 12 months, cozy season. It additionally would make a terrific present for those who’re on the lookout for one thing for upcoming holidays or later within the 12 months, Mom’s Day, Father’s Day. I exploit ours like I mentioned every single day, so I find it irresistible.
Elsie: Superior. Yeah, I like having nice blankets. I believe that’s so fantastic. Okay, so my favourite two issues of the 12 months are, the primary one is, I purchased a free little library for the entrance of our home. I had put it off for some time, I believe I simply wasn’t, I don’t know, I don’t know what I used to be undecided about. However one night time, I simply ordered one and I ordered a small one. You will get them on… I believe it’s free, simply Google free little library. I’m not precisely positive of their web site. They’ve ones on there that they make and so they ship to you. I believe that the library itself and the put up, possibly are separate, however they’ve a pleasant sturdy roof. I believe it has a steel roof and it’s been actually nice. We needed to get our mailbox repaired and I simply had that contractor additionally set up the free little library for me. And yeah, I simply love seeing individuals test it. Quite a lot of occasions our supply drivers will test it and I wish to see that or a postman or different contractors and issues like that. And yeah, it’s simply actually joyful. I additionally love the expertise of sharing books that I’ve learn, when passing them on to a brand new dwelling. So yeah, I simply suppose it’s a really, very joyful factor. I’ve seen that an enormous commonality for me if I believe a neighborhood is quote-unquote good, is that if there’s a variety of free little libraries, the extra free little libraries, it reveals you that it’s a comfortable, cute neighborhood that most likely has good trick or treating and that’s my kind of neighborhood. So yeah, so our neighborhood didn’t have one but so I wished to enhance our neighborhood and add one. Then the opposite factor I purchased, truly, I’m gonna admit, I believe I ordered this final 12 months, however I received it put in this 12 months, is my KILN! I lastly received to totally use it just lately, I received an area elementary faculty instructor got here and taught me how one can use it, which was so useful. Possibly I’ll speak about it extra in a future episode however I’ve performed my first firings and now I’m making extra handhelds and it’s a must to kind of allow them to dry for per week or extra earlier than you set them in for the bisque hearth. I’m simply so comfortable that I perceive how one can use it. And it’s not scary. It was not onerous. I already discovered issues to do higher for subsequent time. In order that was a serious buy. It was positively a splurge. I believe I received it as possibly a birthday present for myself. I can’t actually keep in mind however some sort of main factor, however it’s positively one of the vital joyful issues I’ve ever purchased.
Emma: I find it irresistible.
Elsie: Sure.
Emma: And yeah, it’s best to do an entire episode in your pottery and your kiln as a result of I need to hear about it.
Elsie: Okay, let me do a pair extra masses, after which I’ll do an episode quickly. I promise you all I’ll try this. Yeah, I’ve determined that I’m going to make for my first challenge a desk setting of Halloween dishes. In order that’s my first large factor.
Emma: I find it irresistible.
Elsie: I’m identical to so enthusiastic about it. So yeah.
Emma: Very cool.
Elsie: The subsequent query is, these are the deep questions, how have you ever modified post-pandemic? So I believed this was a really attention-grabbing query. It actually made me suppose and likewise disclaimer, clearly, we all know that the pandemic remains to be happening, in some methods, however I believe that at this level, I’m comfy with the phrase, post-pandemic, simply because it’s like, we’ve been by it. Whether or not or not it’s over but or not is one factor, however we’ve been by one thing collectively that I believe now we are able to, I can lastly replicate on it.
Emma:m Yeah, I believe we’re not likely being requested to remain dwelling as a lot, as a rustic, as a public. I believe that’s an enormous distinction. It doesn’t imply that nobody’s getting sick in any respect. There’s not zero individuals with COVID, that’s not true and I’m undecided that’s ever going to be true however we’re not being requested to remain dwelling like we have been earlier than. So I believe that’s sort of the massive distinction. A giant distinction maker.
Elsie: Undoubtedly a minimum of in a special part.
Emma: Proper.
Elsie: Okay. So yeah, it’s been shut to a few years, I assume, like two and a half years. Within the spring it’ll be three years, which is a very long time, when if I’d have recognized initially of the pandemic that we might nonetheless be having these conversations, and pondering these ideas this far sooner or later, I believe that might have scared the heck out of me at that time. However yeah, now it’s like we’re all simply used to it. Okay, so how I believe I’ve modified, I do really feel like I’ve modified lots. I had a tough two years. I’ve relied on my therapist lots. I’m so grateful for, I really feel like the longer term’s vivid, and that in some methods, some issues are beginning to look lots brighter for me. Okay, so how I’ve modified, I really feel like I’m rather more of a loner now than I was. That is truly sort of dangerous, as a result of I’ve at all times been an introvert. I’ve at all times been slightly little bit of a loner however now I’m an extremely loner, which I truly suppose I’d need to alter again a couple of notches for the longer term. It’s true for now, I’m extraordinarily comfy being alone and I’m extraordinarily uncomfortable having a variety of plans. In order that has modified lots. The subsequent factor is I’m lastly for the primary time in my life, very comfy with privateness. That is from kind of taking a reasonably large step again on social media for a few years. I spent just about my complete grownup life over sharing my life on the web and for the final couple years, I’ve sort of shared virtually nothing. It has been, I believe, a optimistic factor as a result of I believe it’s a part I wanted to get by, to kind of, course appropriate myself. Now I really feel fairly balanced and I’m having fun with sharing issues once more. I don’t really feel as a lot nervousness surrounding the web as I did two years in the past. I even have much more boundaries and much more that I do know I’m going to maintain personal and I’m simply tremendous with that. I’m not anxious about it, which feels actually good. The very last thing is, that is sort of a small one however I believe it is also an enormous one. I believe I’m extra in a position to benefit from the easy issues with my youngsters. Three or 4 years in the past, I keep in mind a time after we have been first mother and father, possibly it’s a distinction of being new mother and father too however we made a cardboard home with Nova and we made it like an entire factor. I spent my complete weekend portray it, making it good, making it equipment, and simply going all in. I believe after such an exhausting season of life, I’m extra comfy with simply letting them play with a field. I believe that a variety of mother and father will relate with that truly. I’m simply not overdoing issues as a lot as I used to. It would simply be an efficient exhaustion. However I believe in some methods, it’s additionally wholesome.
Emma: Yep, that every one is smart. Yeah, mine is so wrapped up with changing into a guardian so it’s onerous to essentially understand how the pandemic, post-pandemic, issues that have been wrapped up with that versus simply changing into a mother as a result of I really feel like that…
Elsie: Yeah you’re in a special season of life utterly than you have been initially of the pandemic.
Emma: Yeah, utterly. Yeah, it’s actually onerous to sort of parcel these out however I assume my one takeaway would most likely be I’m much more open to and grateful for principally any social interplay. I simply really feel it as like, Oh, that is nice. I wouldn’t have been ready to do that two years in the past. You already know, like, that’s sort of what I believe. And there’s occasions, you already know, you’re gonna go do one thing with a bunch of pals and possibly you have been excited to go to a sure restaurant and rapidly, that modifications as a result of you’ll be able to’t get a reservation or one thing, after which you find yourself someplace you’re not as enthusiastic about, and I believe I’d be slightly extra dissatisfied about that years in the past. Now I simply don’t care as a result of I’m like, Oh, we get to exit. That is nice. So I don’t know. I believe it’s a product of sort of decreasing my expectations. And I believe that it’s been a optimistic factor for me. So yeah, that’d be the principle factor however so many different issues, however I believe they’re extra about changing into a mother than post-pandemic.
Elsie: Yeah, I’m wondering what number of years it is going to be after I can go right into a restaurant with out feeling a way of awe for it. I actually do nonetheless really feel that each single time.
Emma: Yeah, I’m identical to, Oh, I’m grateful. Even when what I ordered was dangerous. I’m like, I don’t care. We’re out. We’re round individuals, take a look at this. So yeah, doesn’t matter to me, no matter.
Elsie: Awe I like that. Yeah, we might love to listen to yours too. So go away them for us within the present notes. If in case you have one thing, we might love to listen to it. Okay, so the subsequent query, speak about the place you see yourselves in 10 years. I LOVE this topic. I do know you most likely suppose a variety of our episode was about that however that’s truly extra like 20 or 30 years, or possibly extra, that’s our previous woman part.
Emma: Yeah 30 or 40 years.
Elsie: 10 years sooner or later for me is being 49. Like within the, I’ll have youngsters, you already know, however I’ll nonetheless have youngsters at dwelling. It’s a medium area that we haven’t talked about as a lot.
Emma: Yeah, I’ll be 46 in 10 years.
Elsie: So yeah, I’m excited. 10 years to me, appears like a very good age. I put down I principally need to be in my prime. I need to be on this semi-retired part. So a very good e book for understanding what semi-retired means is that this e book known as, Work Non-compulsory by Tanya Hester, I liked this e book. It is likely one of the cash books that actually modified my life. It’s about how one can retire early however it’s additionally about how one can have a extra versatile life. As a result of for me and my private preferences, I don’t discover inspiration and pleasure within the considered retiring, as a result of I like my job. I don’t even care if I by no means retire. Retirement is just not a purpose for me however being in a state of affairs the place I’ve the whole flexibility to journey for a month or journey for 2 months, or you already know, simply have a tragedy occur the place I need to take off a few months, simply issues like that. That’s one thing that I would like for myself in 10 years that I don’t fairly have but and we’re not fairly there but. I really feel very impressed by that after which the opposite factor is, I do need to transition my profession. We see ourselves doing A Lovely Mess for a very long time however we’ve this fantasy. I don’t need to spoil it an excessive amount of as a result of I really feel like sooner or later, we’ll actually speak about it. However we’ve an concept about writing some books collectively, like some fiction. So that’s one thing that I’m just about laser-focused on however proper now I contemplate myself in a prep part. It’s one thing that I positively need to be. That’s why I mentioned, in my prime, creatively, I need to be absolutely in that zone in 10 years from now. Additionally, I need to journey with my youngsters lots once they’re youngsters. I really feel like that may be a wealthy life factor that I simply actually need to do. It appears like recollections that we are able to make for a lifetime. And touring with them as little youngsters I believe is price it. I believe it’s actually enjoyable however I believe it’ll be extra price it and extra enjoyable once they’re slightly bit older and we are able to kind of share extra of the experiences collectively. In order that’s the place I see myself in 10 years. What about you?
Emma: Yeah, talking of wealthy life, only a aspect notice, our good friend Remeet has simply come out with a, I Will Educate You To Be Wealthy, journal. I preordered it for each my husband and myself. I’m simply actually enthusiastic about it. So anyway, you have been simply speaking about wealthy life, that’s actually the place that comes from is Remeet talks lots about designing your wealthy life. What it means to you as a result of it’s not nearly cash. It’s about what you do along with your cash that you’ve. Okay, so yeah, 10 years from now, I’ll be 46, and I’ll have an 11-year-old. What I’d like to be doing is hopefully nonetheless residing in the home that we’re about to maneuver to, however it’ll be very lived in and absolutely completed, hopefully, you already know, very a lot by then. I’d actually love my schedule to reflect Oscars’s faculty schedule. I’d actually like to stroll him to high school within the morning and stroll to select him up on the finish of the day apart from when there’s dangerous climate, after all, I’m not going to make him stroll within the snow or one thing. However yeah, I’d like my work time to suit into these hours, which in my thoughts, in comparison with what I do proper now, is kind of semi-retirement, however it’s nonetheless an excellent quantity of labor hours. So I believe I’ll positively nonetheless be doing A Lovely Mess. I’ll nonetheless be doing childhood Magic. And yeah, Elsie and I’ve some fiction writing we’d love to do collectively. I positively need fiction writing to be part of my profession. I don’t actually care that a lot if I make tons and tons of cash at it, however I want to make sufficient cash that I can justify spending time on it as a result of I actually get pleasure from it. I like studying and I’d like to be part of it. I’m simply so grateful for all the good authors that I’ve learn as a result of it’s simply particular. Whenever you get a e book that you just love, you already know, I’d love to hitch their ranks at some point, so I positively fantasize about that lots. I’m taking steps for that to be part of my life and hopefully, 10 years from now, that can very a lot be the case. So I’d like to spend my day whereas Oscars’s in school, writing, creating stuff for A Lovely Mess, for Childhood Magic. Hopefully, I’ll have slightly extra time for lunches with pals or, you already know, I simply did my annual go speak to fifth graders about my job. I try this yearly.
Elsie: Did they ask you something awkward?
Emma: No, not likely. They didn’t even ask me how a lot cash I make. That’s virtually at all times the primary query. It actually wasn’t this 12 months, I used to be stunned. However anyway, I’d love area for issues like that. If there’s one thing happening at Oscar’s faculty, I simply need area in my schedule the place I can do issues like that, and principally simply be part of my group with the age of kid that I’ve. So anyway, that’s actually the place I see myself. It’s nothing groundbreaking however to me, it appears like a beautiful life. If I step again, I really feel slightly overwhelmed proper now with shifting and every part that’s happening with our careers and issues like that however after I take a step again and take a look at it, I’m like, Yeah, you’re making a variety of good decisions that I believe your future self will likely be very pleased with. In order that’s good.
Elsie: Yeah, I agree with that. I believe having a ten 12 months plan, for those who’ve by no means made one for your self, I believe it’s such an encouraging, essential train to do. It can provide you a lot perspective whenever you’re going by a tough season or whenever you’re uncertain about little decisions, you already know, to only assist you to concentrate on what you actually need for your self. I believe that’s so useful. So yep, I like a ten 12 months plan. Yeah, it makes me really feel Yeah, so comfortable.
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